dba9ioracle
09-10 03:17 PM
If you are seeing Light at the end of the tunnel (visa recapture), beware, It could be another train (almight uscis can ruin anything) approaching from other side of the tunnel.
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knnmbd
04-25 12:59 PM
Guys what about the type of visa? I mean shud the start date be ur H1B start date or ur F1 entry date? Coz if some people start on an H1 a lot of us also started on an F1. In that case doesnt it make more sense to root for the clause that says the immigrant can apply for his own GC that is employer independant? If i am not mistaken, is that not already a part of the PACE act?
Besides a lot of people are not sure for a while, if they even want to apply for their GCs or not initially. I personally know of atleast 3 such people. By putting the responsibility of application of the GC into the immigrant's hands, and empowering the applicant to apply for himself/herself, the process becomes a lot more transparent and fair. That way the day the immigrant decides to apply and applies is their PD. That way if someone does not start it as soon as he/she can, it is now up to them. Since the applicant Can apply for himself instead of being sponsored for a GC by an employer, it is no longer employer based, so no one can fault the employer saying that, "They didnt file for me for a year".
In my opinion, just pushing ur PD to the date u entered will not really help a lot. Coz say ur current PD is Feb 2002 EB3 but u had entered in 1998. DOL/UCSIS will say, ok lets do that, and the next day they will say, Now the Retrogression goes back to the year 1996. Is that not possible? Currently what we need is the immigrant to be in total control of his/her GC process. That way the GC can take even 10 years, so long as the applicant and dependants can avail of EADs and Travel permits which are longer than just 1 year increments. If we are thinking long term, then shudnt we be looking at this aspect? The GC itself represents nothing more than total freedom in ur career and it's choices. If we can achieve the same thing without the actual GC, isint that our goal?
I agree. Also, since F1 is not a dual intent visa this will not hold water. Anyways this is a ridiculous demand. We are not the law makers and we should consider ourselves lucky that couple of IV's amendments are in a few of the senator’s bills, though there are no guarantees if they will be included in the final text or let alone be passed. We should only push for what is already include in the 2 bills and not confuse everyone every time one of us comes up with this "brilliant" idea of using H1B entry date as priority date. So what's the next amendment we want " include the day I first envisioned that I will come to America as the priority date". WE NEED ONE VOICE and we have already been heard so let’s stick to what is practical and push those amendments through.
Besides a lot of people are not sure for a while, if they even want to apply for their GCs or not initially. I personally know of atleast 3 such people. By putting the responsibility of application of the GC into the immigrant's hands, and empowering the applicant to apply for himself/herself, the process becomes a lot more transparent and fair. That way the day the immigrant decides to apply and applies is their PD. That way if someone does not start it as soon as he/she can, it is now up to them. Since the applicant Can apply for himself instead of being sponsored for a GC by an employer, it is no longer employer based, so no one can fault the employer saying that, "They didnt file for me for a year".
In my opinion, just pushing ur PD to the date u entered will not really help a lot. Coz say ur current PD is Feb 2002 EB3 but u had entered in 1998. DOL/UCSIS will say, ok lets do that, and the next day they will say, Now the Retrogression goes back to the year 1996. Is that not possible? Currently what we need is the immigrant to be in total control of his/her GC process. That way the GC can take even 10 years, so long as the applicant and dependants can avail of EADs and Travel permits which are longer than just 1 year increments. If we are thinking long term, then shudnt we be looking at this aspect? The GC itself represents nothing more than total freedom in ur career and it's choices. If we can achieve the same thing without the actual GC, isint that our goal?
I agree. Also, since F1 is not a dual intent visa this will not hold water. Anyways this is a ridiculous demand. We are not the law makers and we should consider ourselves lucky that couple of IV's amendments are in a few of the senator’s bills, though there are no guarantees if they will be included in the final text or let alone be passed. We should only push for what is already include in the 2 bills and not confuse everyone every time one of us comes up with this "brilliant" idea of using H1B entry date as priority date. So what's the next amendment we want " include the day I first envisioned that I will come to America as the priority date". WE NEED ONE VOICE and we have already been heard so let’s stick to what is practical and push those amendments through.
Sunx_2004
05-19 05:56 PM
I think it is a good idea..Everyone should write to local Congressman/Women senator detailing the case and asking Why it is taking so much time to process the AOS.
They will come back with standard answer like country quota etc..BUT
This will create awareness among the lawmakers..
I would say we should start with local congressional office. Every case whether it is resolved or not should be taken to the attention of local congressional office.
If members volunteer to do this, we could distribute districts among ourselves and take care of each district's congressional office. In that way we could raise the awareness among the lawmakers. I do agree that not every office will be friendly to immigrants like my district's congressional office, but we have to try.
They will come back with standard answer like country quota etc..BUT
This will create awareness among the lawmakers..
I would say we should start with local congressional office. Every case whether it is resolved or not should be taken to the attention of local congressional office.
If members volunteer to do this, we could distribute districts among ourselves and take care of each district's congressional office. In that way we could raise the awareness among the lawmakers. I do agree that not every office will be friendly to immigrants like my district's congressional office, but we have to try.
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eb3_nepa
07-14 02:13 PM
I am trying to pay thru PNC Bank. When trying to add IV, there are 2 options. One is With number and the second Without number.
eb3_nepa: Could you please put some guidelines on how to use BillPAy? Sorry for the ignorance.
I think it would be without a number. Now that depends on which number? If they need an account number then, yes no account number OR you could use your IV handle as the account number. Different banks have different methods of BILL PAY.
eb3_nepa: Could you please put some guidelines on how to use BillPAy? Sorry for the ignorance.
I think it would be without a number. Now that depends on which number? If they need an account number then, yes no account number OR you could use your IV handle as the account number. Different banks have different methods of BILL PAY.
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FSL
09-10 11:19 AM
This might be good news for EB3 ROW guys like me? PD AUG 2003 still waiting?
Any thoughts ? EB3 ROW visas were unavailable !!
Any thoughts ? EB3 ROW visas were unavailable !!
chanduv23
05-15 11:11 PM
Thanks for your wishes.
I agree with you regarding the timeline and evidence. I have mentioned it to my attorney numerous times. My attorney was insistent that adjudicating officers can see all my info on their computer screens. It is only a matter of looking at the info correctly.
It looks like the first MTR went to the same IO who denied my I-485. I could say it from ID in both the denial letters.
Well - I think it was a dirty little trick where supervisor was convinced that this is not an AC21 case and did not even bother to look up your case information.
This is definitely a slap on the face of honesty and integrity
I agree with you regarding the timeline and evidence. I have mentioned it to my attorney numerous times. My attorney was insistent that adjudicating officers can see all my info on their computer screens. It is only a matter of looking at the info correctly.
It looks like the first MTR went to the same IO who denied my I-485. I could say it from ID in both the denial letters.
Well - I think it was a dirty little trick where supervisor was convinced that this is not an AC21 case and did not even bother to look up your case information.
This is definitely a slap on the face of honesty and integrity
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ArkBird
09-04 05:09 PM
You are 100% right but no one thought their Labor/GC pain will last THIS long. The most unfortunate/unlucky part in this whole journey was 245(i) amnesty in 2001. This is a tsunami which choked the labor pipe (Remember the good old days of Backlog Reduction Center and quest for that elusive screen shot from the BRC for case? :) ) & imbalanced the demand/supply equilibrium for EB3. This is the reason the variable of priority date became constant and stuck to 2001..
I think there is more smartness needed than luck in the greencard process. If you look at the posts in this thread there are some people that came to USA in 1990s and still waiting, while some that came much later are on their way to citizenship. Some got the EB2 route and are happy and some in EB3 have only gloom before them.
This in my opinion has helped smart folks among us:
- They applied for GC as soon as possible. Those who waited did not give importance to Greencard as soon as they started a job in USA are now paying for their mistakes. During the initial days of career I have seen people saying that GC is not important to them etc but when their H1B is about to expire they panic and get desperate for Green Card.
- Before pre-PERM era in 2005, smart folks took up jobs in states where labor certification had no backlog. They are now either waiting for citizenship or already citizens. On the other hand people in states like CA, NY etc suffered due to labor backlogs and far from getting greencard in hand.
- Any company can be good or bad for an individual. It it not a question of consulting vs fortune 500 or small vs big size of a company. Smart folks know what matters them the most when they join a company. When company sees them as a valuable asset, it applies for them. I have seen where company applied for GC as soon as the employee joined it. And I have seen posts where people had to wait for several years before company applied.
- People who took advantage of the Labor substitution got faster labors. Some could take advantage of EB2 labors and they are very fortunate. This is in no way endorsing the labor substitution rule, but in pre 2007 times nobody was protesting against it. This is a sad reality.
- Smart folks took the risk and changed jobs wth EB2 job requirements, so that they can file in EB2. Such folks with 2007 PD are happy today and people with 2003 PDs in EB3 will have to wait for a long time.
- If you read posts on this thread, many people have posted that they feel they are being screwed by their employer or lawyer. But hardly anyone has said they took any action against it. This is also a sad reality where we as a community have failed and will continue to suffer.
- Many folks have said that they thought they were in EB2. But found they are in EB3. This shows another weakness of our community and lack of awareness. IV forum tries to spread the awareness but unless an individual takes initiative, they will suffer.
Many people were able to file I485 in July 2007 due to IV effort. Imagine a 2004 EB3 India person without EAD today? How will he survive a job loss on H1B in a bad economy? We should take a lesson from that event and try for another big push. There is no other shortcut for us. It is shocking to find people on this thread that are in this country for more than 10 years and without a green card. These folks should be the most vocal folks in this effort.
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I think there is more smartness needed than luck in the greencard process. If you look at the posts in this thread there are some people that came to USA in 1990s and still waiting, while some that came much later are on their way to citizenship. Some got the EB2 route and are happy and some in EB3 have only gloom before them.
This in my opinion has helped smart folks among us:
- They applied for GC as soon as possible. Those who waited did not give importance to Greencard as soon as they started a job in USA are now paying for their mistakes. During the initial days of career I have seen people saying that GC is not important to them etc but when their H1B is about to expire they panic and get desperate for Green Card.
- Before pre-PERM era in 2005, smart folks took up jobs in states where labor certification had no backlog. They are now either waiting for citizenship or already citizens. On the other hand people in states like CA, NY etc suffered due to labor backlogs and far from getting greencard in hand.
- Any company can be good or bad for an individual. It it not a question of consulting vs fortune 500 or small vs big size of a company. Smart folks know what matters them the most when they join a company. When company sees them as a valuable asset, it applies for them. I have seen where company applied for GC as soon as the employee joined it. And I have seen posts where people had to wait for several years before company applied.
- People who took advantage of the Labor substitution got faster labors. Some could take advantage of EB2 labors and they are very fortunate. This is in no way endorsing the labor substitution rule, but in pre 2007 times nobody was protesting against it. This is a sad reality.
- Smart folks took the risk and changed jobs wth EB2 job requirements, so that they can file in EB2. Such folks with 2007 PD are happy today and people with 2003 PDs in EB3 will have to wait for a long time.
- If you read posts on this thread, many people have posted that they feel they are being screwed by their employer or lawyer. But hardly anyone has said they took any action against it. This is also a sad reality where we as a community have failed and will continue to suffer.
- Many folks have said that they thought they were in EB2. But found they are in EB3. This shows another weakness of our community and lack of awareness. IV forum tries to spread the awareness but unless an individual takes initiative, they will suffer.
Many people were able to file I485 in July 2007 due to IV effort. Imagine a 2004 EB3 India person without EAD today? How will he survive a job loss on H1B in a bad economy? We should take a lesson from that event and try for another big push. There is no other shortcut for us. It is shocking to find people on this thread that are in this country for more than 10 years and without a green card. These folks should be the most vocal folks in this effort.
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audelinom
02-23 11:26 PM
Immigrating legally to the U.S seemed like a gold opportunity when I was offered to work here six years ago with an H1B visa. As a matter of fact, all my friends and family considered that it would have been crazy not to take advantage of the "opportunity" to live and work in the most developed country on Earth.
It's been six long years of challenges and learning experiences, but mostly it's been six years of financial distress, anxiety, paralysis and uncertainty.
We applied for PR four years ago, but in the process my wife and I have eaten all our saving in lawyer fees - and at this point we're just one more number in the long list of EB3 applicants who don't have the remotest idea of when visa numbers will become available so we can have a normal life. I don't even consider traveling to my country cause I don't have the money to pay for APs for me and my wife. My career has been also frozen since I cant take promotions to higher positions that will fall off the job description stated in my PERM.
If I had known about this ordeal, I would have never come to the US. I would have looked for other options, in countries that have a more sincere and generous immigration policies instead. If the US is not interested in allowing people to legally immigrate through visas based on employment, they simply should eliminate these visas and make clear that they don't want us to stay. Wouldn't that be easy for everyone?
I would return to my country if we didn't have a nasty political turmoil and the social decay that comes with it. Yet, I feel that the days go by and our lives are entangled in this absurd situation.
It's been six long years of challenges and learning experiences, but mostly it's been six years of financial distress, anxiety, paralysis and uncertainty.
We applied for PR four years ago, but in the process my wife and I have eaten all our saving in lawyer fees - and at this point we're just one more number in the long list of EB3 applicants who don't have the remotest idea of when visa numbers will become available so we can have a normal life. I don't even consider traveling to my country cause I don't have the money to pay for APs for me and my wife. My career has been also frozen since I cant take promotions to higher positions that will fall off the job description stated in my PERM.
If I had known about this ordeal, I would have never come to the US. I would have looked for other options, in countries that have a more sincere and generous immigration policies instead. If the US is not interested in allowing people to legally immigrate through visas based on employment, they simply should eliminate these visas and make clear that they don't want us to stay. Wouldn't that be easy for everyone?
I would return to my country if we didn't have a nasty political turmoil and the social decay that comes with it. Yet, I feel that the days go by and our lives are entangled in this absurd situation.
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virald
10-01 05:20 PM
Let us wait for the statement from USCIS
Which statement are you talking about? Was there any intimation from USCIS that a statement will be released?:confused:
Which statement are you talking about? Was there any intimation from USCIS that a statement will be released?:confused:
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lahiribaba
03-12 12:00 PM
IV has started a donor Forum for contributing members.
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Our monthly subscription based model will help members get access to this area for that time period. In the coming days we will be consolidating all previous subscribers who are continuing their subscription at present to be added as well. If you are an old continuing subscriber, and do not have access, do send an email to info at immigrationvoice.org with your name, email, amount subscribed every month and your IV ID. We will verify it and add you. If you have given a one time payment this month more than $25, we will be dividing it by $25 and the system will calculate the number of months you are subscribed. If you have the old $20/month subscription, please continue that. We will add you in the Monthly subscribers as well.
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From now we will post IV updates on the donor forum so that members who contribute get the privilege of getting the information. If the information can be released for public, we will release it on the main forums after a delay. Donor forum will have the first access to the information. All donors will be identified by a 'donor' status in their profiles instead of junior/senior members.
If members want to start a thread in the donor forum, please add 'Donor Forum' before the the thread title so that everyone knows it is in the restricted area.
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Thank you for your continued support
With this model can IV still claim to be a non-profit organization? It seems you are exchanging information in return of cold hard cash? :p
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=109
Our monthly subscription based model will help members get access to this area for that time period. In the coming days we will be consolidating all previous subscribers who are continuing their subscription at present to be added as well. If you are an old continuing subscriber, and do not have access, do send an email to info at immigrationvoice.org with your name, email, amount subscribed every month and your IV ID. We will verify it and add you. If you have given a one time payment this month more than $25, we will be dividing it by $25 and the system will calculate the number of months you are subscribed. If you have the old $20/month subscription, please continue that. We will add you in the Monthly subscribers as well.
If you wish to subscribe, please click on the donate now link, adjacent to the green progress bar above and subscribe.
From now we will post IV updates on the donor forum so that members who contribute get the privilege of getting the information. If the information can be released for public, we will release it on the main forums after a delay. Donor forum will have the first access to the information. All donors will be identified by a 'donor' status in their profiles instead of junior/senior members.
If members want to start a thread in the donor forum, please add 'Donor Forum' before the the thread title so that everyone knows it is in the restricted area.
Admins will visit this area more often and answer questions from members. This will also enable more close coordination and communication between committed members. It is sometimes difficult for us to to read every post on the forum or post certain information for public consumption.
Thank you for your continued support
With this model can IV still claim to be a non-profit organization? It seems you are exchanging information in return of cold hard cash? :p
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I don't think so. Eventhough they make U in september bulletin. They have to move dates in October bulletin because of new visa numbers.
Yes there will be dates in Oct. but will that be 2006 Jan.? That is what karanp25 means.
And answer is it probably will not be. We can look back the bulletin on May and June 2007. Are they match Oct. 2007 bulletin ?
Yes there will be dates in Oct. but will that be 2006 Jan.? That is what karanp25 means.
And answer is it probably will not be. We can look back the bulletin on May and June 2007. Are they match Oct. 2007 bulletin ?
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09-13 08:33 PM
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01-03 03:11 PM
Does anybody know whether USCIS do background checking on AP application or not ? It seems for my case they are doing as the IO told me.
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07-19 01:27 PM
Thanks espoir for your contribution!!
Really heartening to see more and people coming forward with contributions...
And seems like all the efforts we made did work. check this out:
Skilled Workers May See Green-Card Surge
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_068854.htm
Come on guys.. come forward to support IV. We need to keep the momentum up and make sure Lawmakers hear and work on our problems. This will definitely need lobbying, which needs money.
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Really heartening to see more and people coming forward with contributions...
And seems like all the efforts we made did work. check this out:
Skilled Workers May See Green-Card Surge
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_068854.htm
Come on guys.. come forward to support IV. We need to keep the momentum up and make sure Lawmakers hear and work on our problems. This will definitely need lobbying, which needs money.
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04-01 08:55 AM
Oh yeah...I've read that report. Dude just walk out if u dont like the process. Nobody is stopping u. Do u think things are faster in the country u came from? But when u come to another country u want things to happen like that. Yes 7 years is slow. But if millions keep coming into this country what can the USCIS do? Its clearly an overflow which they cant handle. Before u give a red think twice. Read clearly what one is trying to say. I agree with IV's fight for speedening of the process. But to blame the USCIS and to ask for a change in management is too much. We have NO RIGHTS WHATSOEVER to ask for that.
Somebody said that you don't deserve a second but I dont mind spending few just to make few things straight here.
1. We (the EB applicants) did not cross the border overnight. We were interviewed, shortlisted, H1B applicaion processed, approved and at the port of entry, we were welcomed by the officials. We did not sneak through.
2. Just because corruption prevails in India, it does not mean people can be treated badly here. Corruption in India is none of US business. We are here on business. US want our skills and we need the dollars. Period.
3. Beyond that, employers here (it could India or China based - but are established organizations here) see a requirement for our skills in future and US government is verifying that through LC and I140 and offering us GC. Now the fact that US immigration is broken is evident enough that this country is not error free. Every country has its own problems.
4. Let's talk about corruption. Where on earth is there no corruption? Whereever human beings are, there is corruption. 100%. It's here in the USA, its there in Japan, its there in Gulf. Everywhere. I am not saying corruption is good but is inevitable.
If you say, US thinks that because these guys are from India where corruption is to the core, and these guys have half the facilities (back home) that this country provide and hence deserve a broken immigration system that screws up their life, then my friend, this country is no better than any other country on this earth for being so mean. And, for that reason, if you ask me to get out of this country, I would like to say, humbly, that is none of your problem. If yes, ask every US organization that is trying to exploit the business potential in India to get out from India. When the last US business leaves India, I will leave this country.
Somebody said that you don't deserve a second but I dont mind spending few just to make few things straight here.
1. We (the EB applicants) did not cross the border overnight. We were interviewed, shortlisted, H1B applicaion processed, approved and at the port of entry, we were welcomed by the officials. We did not sneak through.
2. Just because corruption prevails in India, it does not mean people can be treated badly here. Corruption in India is none of US business. We are here on business. US want our skills and we need the dollars. Period.
3. Beyond that, employers here (it could India or China based - but are established organizations here) see a requirement for our skills in future and US government is verifying that through LC and I140 and offering us GC. Now the fact that US immigration is broken is evident enough that this country is not error free. Every country has its own problems.
4. Let's talk about corruption. Where on earth is there no corruption? Whereever human beings are, there is corruption. 100%. It's here in the USA, its there in Japan, its there in Gulf. Everywhere. I am not saying corruption is good but is inevitable.
If you say, US thinks that because these guys are from India where corruption is to the core, and these guys have half the facilities (back home) that this country provide and hence deserve a broken immigration system that screws up their life, then my friend, this country is no better than any other country on this earth for being so mean. And, for that reason, if you ask me to get out of this country, I would like to say, humbly, that is none of your problem. If yes, ask every US organization that is trying to exploit the business potential in India to get out from India. When the last US business leaves India, I will leave this country.
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IVFOREVER
04-30 03:04 PM
SO IF they move PD's to 2006 dec then there is aposibility that all 2006 pd 's get GC's before 2001 pd's.:mad:
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02-12 10:00 AM
Finally, the day dawned for my Labor Certification ! Praise God !
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pbp
05-24 10:36 AM
In suport of the view they are totally chaotic: RIR here, priority date is in April 2002, 45-day letter was received & replied to in February 2005 (15+ months ago), heard nothing from them since then. Lawyer started process for 7th year extension.
coopheal
08-12 12:34 PM
They could have done this and re-captured visas with additional fees or whatever. And called it greencard fraud fees it that makes them happy. But the fact is they did not want to do anything to give relief to Immigrants. Recapture (hundreds of thousands of visas) would have significantly helped helped retrogressed countries like EB3 India, China, ROW and EB2 India China. They can take additional fees as long as we know the recapture is being done.
Very true. If he really meant what he said (inovating companies use of H1B) in the speach, bill would have something to alleviate employment based GC backlog.
Very true. If he really meant what he said (inovating companies use of H1B) in the speach, bill would have something to alleviate employment based GC backlog.
AabTuAgaGC
12-27 03:35 PM
Received date July 27th, 2007. No AP yet:mad::mad::mad::mad:I have to travel in February:(:(
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